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Mama We’re All Full of Logic

Premise 1:           MCR’s song “Mama” shares a melody line with Pink Floyd’s “The Trial.”

Premise 2:           MCR’s song “Mama” follows similar format to Pink Floyd’s song “Mother,” shares a similar title, and references war just like “Mama.”

Premise 3:           Both Pink Floyd songs are from the album “The Wall.”

Conclusion:        MCR’s song “Mama” was inspired by Pink Floyd’s “The Wall.”

 

 

One of the clearest references to Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” is a piece of shared melody. The line “you should have raised a baby girl, I should have been a better son” is sang nearly identically to a recurring melody in the song “The Trial.” I say nearly identical, because throughout “The Trial” the melody is sung and played many different ways, usually playing around with the starting notes, ending notes, and the key as shown.

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You may notice that variation #1 is the most similar to the melody from “Mama,” since they differ only in their last note.

 

One thing I must mention is the fact that both “The Trial” and “Mama” feature a ‘mother’ character at some point, but although the mother character shows up and sings in “The Trial,” I don’t believe we have a strong enough basis to assume that a mother character is addressed in “Mama” is because of that instance. Instead I would argue that the idea to have this song addressed to the mother in a letter style format came from the song “Mother,” also from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall.” To strengthen this, there are references to war in both songs as shown below, so it is highly likely that this song was also drawn on for inspiration.

“Mother, do you think they’ll drop the bomb?
Mother, do you think they’ll like this song?
Mother, do you think they’ll try to break my balls?
Ooh, aah, mother, should I build the wall?

Mother, should I run for president?
Mother, should I trust the government?
Mother, will they put me in the firing line?
Ooh, aah, is it just a waste of time?”

  • Pink Floyd

“Well, Mother, what the war did to my legs and to my tongue,
You should’ve raised a baby girl, I should’ve been a better son.
If you could coddle the infection they can amputate at once.”

  • My Chemical Romance

 

One might say “the evidence before the court is incontrovertible; there’s no need for the jury to retire” (Pink Floyd) and call it a day, but despite how unlikely it is that MCR does not know about Pink Floyd, or how silly it would seem to present all this to someone and have them say that “Mama” is not based on “The Wall,” it still may be possible for someone to prove all of what I have written to be wrong. Many of the statements my conclusion is based upon are merely extremely likely, and have resisted falsification thus far, so I wouldn’t be surprised if someone questioned my logic. The fact that one line of “Mama” is extremely alike to the general melody of “The Trial” could still arguably be a coincidence, and the same goes for the similarities between “Mama” and “Mother,” since it hasn’t been publicly confirmed that there is any correlation between the two. Nonetheless, since my statements have resisted falsification, and if statements which resist such a thing can be considered true, I think one could safely say my logic is sound.

 

One Response to Mama We’re All Full of Logic

  1. davidfa says:

    Hey Sarah! I really like the deep insight that you showed towards both songs and your identification of the similar rhythmic and lyrical patterns of the two songs. Both songs do indeed share a similarity, that is undeniable, and both songs do inspire a sense of nostalgia. I would just like to thank you for introducing me to Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” it is a fabulous classic that I wasn’t familiar with. It is such a wonderful song! I hope you have a great day, and would like to thank you again for your great analysis!

     

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