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A day off, without change? -Kyle

What if one day things everywhere ground to a halt? What if birds froze in mid-flight, people froze in mid-sentence, and planets and subatomic particles alike froze in mid-orbit? What if all change, throughout the entire universe, completely ceased for a period of, say, one year? Is such a thing possible? Can there be time without change?
I talk about this in another post located here!

In class the other day I had the chance to talk to a couple people and find some common insights in the group talk this is what I found!
Tali raised a question about how space and the universe around us would affect us. Now at first glance, this question doesn’t have much common themes with time vs change, however through more discussion it turned out to have a very startling similarity. We talked about how if the universe would affect us, it would have to grow (for us to notice and affect our earth), however the universe growing, would that be a change or was it just always as it was? Brings us to the big bang theory, but we ignored it and kept moving. Planets grow old and die over millions of years and turn into super giants, red planets and black holes, so planets do change. It got really confusing but how we managed to kinda pull everything into one, we pretty much summed up a question that if everything were to freeze (like no more changing), like my first question states, would the universe keep growing? Like where would new Planets come from and could they come into existent without the essence of change? Or do they just need time? Now leaving us totally confused and no idea where to turn we looked over to Natalie and her question; was do we create our own meaning to life. That question  alone was difficult to understand, and we couldn’t think of how time vs change would effect a meaning to life asides the fact that would your view on life change through time, and if nothing changed would the meaning of life be one thing to everyone? But it wasn’t clear to us, and we didn’t find much similarities between these questions unfortunately.

New/old questions arises;
So the new questions that arise for me was, would the universe still grow without change? Or would planets come into existence without change because time still moves. Now this is a new question and an unanswered one to myself, something I will post about in the future perhaps. My original question is still there, I have yet to find an answer that would satisfy myself enough to say yes I like that.

Now to my day off!

For my day off I decided to take an hour out of my day, to stare into a wall, just a normal wall, no windows, no paintings, just my blue bedroom wall. Then after that painstaking hour was over, I then played some games with my friends which was around an hour, however, that hour went by so fast I had almost thought someone changed my clock! So it came to my attention that, maybe time isn’t there, maybe its just what we perceive it to be? It is selfish to think that time wouldn’t be there without us, but maybe not, because when I think about it, does a daisy know its been about a year and it knows its fully bloomed? Or is it just growing like a daisy should, it doesn’t matter how long it takes, it doesn’t care; that’s just how it is. We put a number onto time really, but does the actual essence have to be there? Would time and change be separate? Or are they the same and we just look at them two different ways? I really couldn’t tell you, at least now I can’t.

 

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Discussion Post- alysha

In my last post What are Words, my question was related to our thoughts in our minds as we process the sounds that we call “words.” I read the article called “What makes a word” and in that article it allowed me to further my understanding on the basis of us comprehending words. It also gave me insight on how we put words together, make words and when and how we choose to use the words. The main thing that all of my readings taught me was the two opinions of Saussure and Locke because both of them had very contradicting opinions on how we conceive words. The more I read about my topic, the more questions I had about it. How come words are our main source of communication? How did words first become our communication source? And I think the more sources I read, the more questions I had about the details.

In my discussion on the 11th we really didn’t talk much about topics related to mine. We talked more about Courtney’s topic on “Time is an illusion” because we all seemed pretty interested in it. We all really agreed on the fact that time was just an idea made up and we all follow this specific set time all over the world. I brought up the idea that when you are in a hurry or have a lot of things to do, an hour seems like 15 minutes, but when its the last 15 minutes of block 4 at the end of the day, 15 minutes tends to seem like 1 hour. Without the concept of time, we would just sleep when we are tired and wake up when we have had enough sleep.

In the next discussion group we were in, I decided to bring up this topic once again because I wanted to see if anyone really thought time was real or a definite concept. Most of the group agreed with my original idea and the fact that time was an illusion but Erin brought up the idea that she agrees time is an illusion but humans need it to function on a daily basis because we are creatures of habit. We have to do the same things everyday because we need structure in our lives to work, to eat, to meet others and to live out our daily habits. This is an aspect of time that I have never really thought about and I think that she brought up a good point because we need the concept of time even if it is an illusion. I was really interested in this topic and it really made me think and spend time wondering and looking deeper into this topic of time. How is time directly influencing us? Who decided that this idea of time was the rule for the whole world? If there was no time, where would civilization be now? Does time affect the outside world?

 

 

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Time’s a changing thing -Kyle Meyer

Can there be time without change?

This pretty much sums up my question perfectly;

What if one day things everywhere ground to a halt? What if birds froze in mid-flight, people froze in mid-sentence, and planets and subatomic particles alike froze in mid-orbit? What if all change, throughout the entire universe, completely ceased for a period of, say, one year? Is such a thing possible?

This was taken from an article that can be found here, and this question got me wondering, is this possible, and if it was, what would happen?

In fact, if it’s possible for there to be a period of time without change, then it may well be that a million years have passed since you finished reading the last sentence.

This question about time and change goes really deep, it goes from just a could there be time without change, all the way to time travel and the universe expanding through time, with or without it. Which really caused more questions for myself, because what is time? Again from the same site, a little ways down they mention;

For, the thinking goes, if there could be a period of time without change, then it follows that time could exist without any events to fill it; but if, on the other hand, there could not be a period of time without change, then it must be that time exists only if there are some events to fill it.

So there are two sides to this time vs change. Something I need to dig deeper for, something I need to look back in time for, if there even is time at all. “Aristotle and others (including, especially, Leibniz) have argued that time does not exist independently of the events that occur in time” so that being said and widely agreed upon that time will keep going, even if there is no change. So finally, I found an answer, or one that some people thing would be correct, that time can keep moving if everything stopped.

“Time is like an empty container into which things and events may be placed; but it is a container that exists independently of what (if anything) is placed in it.”

Well there I have it, time will keep moving even if I stopped changing, however, that raises another question, what is change? For example, if I cut myself, technically that would be a change, I did not have that cut a few seconds before. The cells in my body are changing and replicating every second, that’s also change. My fingers on this very keyboard are moving from their original positions, that would also be change, and your eyes, moving back and fourth and changing, your pupils my dilate and so on, so would there be a way to stop changing?

However, that is more for me to read, more to understand, time is endless, but would change be endless as well? Many questions came up in my head while reading this, because as I mentioned earlier, time travel and the ever expanding universe is also another time and change aspect of life. So I think for now, I have a comfortable understanding about what a Time with Change would kinda look like.

(Anything that is in block quotations are from the same site, found here)

 

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WHAT IF BANANAS WIGGLED IN COLD WEATHER – Melody Nejad

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Call me Mel. Melody is too much of a mouthful, I can’t even say my own name properly without cringing.
I like video games, but that phrase has been rendered meaningless in the contemporary world, because who doesn’t play video games. Even fetuses in a womb play video games. I also draw, for money and for free (mostly for money because I’m broke and the motivation helps me). I’m thinking of starting a web comic in the near future if my parents don’t force me to get a job. But I do want to work at the same time, because I need money and a steady income to buy
Star Wars™ merchandise. Also for post secondary. My parents aren’t paying for all of that. (By the way, as well as Samson, I am a walking meme).

Maybe if I keep rambling I’ll reach thDOOT DOOTe required word count??? Writing is hard for me when the topic is so vague.

Now speaking of the topic: on to the subject at hand; Mr. Jackson asked “What is philosophy?” Honestly, I am not sure. Is it just talking about topics in depth, and getting so in depth that your head starts hurting? Or is it a pleasant conversation that comes up at lunch time and suddenly your thoughts are branching off into hundreds of different subjects? Like boys? Makeup? Cars? The best way to hit someone with considerable force on the head without causing permanent neurological and psychological damage? Or maybe, it’s a way to pass the time, and a way to understand the world and your life more clearly. To philosophize, in a general statement, is to “. . .study [the] fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline”.

I love to think about life and the nature of things in depth. The discussion we had earlier in class this week about the article, “Does Color Even Exist?“, was very intriguing. We were able to take one simple? topic and generate many ideas, theories and concepts. If color doesn’t exist then how do cameras capture it? Or do cameras capture the black and white, and then our brains imagine the color because who wants to live in a world of black and white? Do the minds of people refuse to see a dull world so much, that from the beginning of mankind we’ve forced to imagine up hues and shades- WHAT IF COLOR IS JUST SOMETHING WE’VE MADE UP?? WAIT. IT IS SOMETHING WE’VE MADE UP. WHAT THE HELL IS A YELLOW–

“Color hovers uneasily between the subjective world of sensation and the objective world of fact.”

I wish we had more debate time, I had just started getting into a heated conversation. I’ll flip a table next time to prove my arguments.

In my respectful opinion philosophy is more composed of speaking and holding a debate between a pair or a group of people, than writing. Of course, writing makes it easier to access ideas and keep track of the different thoughts, but speech takes one idea and holds it up within the group, a simple shape floating in the air, and the rest of the group bends it and shapes it and stretches it so it is a mixture of thoughts and ideas and it grows as more people add to it. Talking is an important element – a vital aspect, of circulating ideas throughout a society, and ideas are heard and reinforced more often through word of mouth, than when written on paper.

TL;DR (even though its not that long), what if we’re actually all in comas and what we’re living in now is just a computer generated dream and Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Connor are fighting off Skynet.

 

 

 

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“Every philosopher is a child of his time…”

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

While the balance of this article might come more clearly into focus as we approach social-political philosophy and ethics, the opening paragraph offers an interesting perspective for our epistemological consideration:

At the beginning of the nineteenth century Hegel wrote that every philosopher is a child of his time and none can jump over his own shadow: every philosophy, then, is “its time grasped in a concept.” In the twentieth century Adorno took up this idea again when he spoke of the irreducible “kernel of time” embedded in the center of any philosophical view, and of the “temporal index” of truth. Whatever these rather difficult doctrines mean, they clearly are not intended to imply that at any given time all opinions are equally true.

Here are Hegel’s own words translated to English, from the preface to Elements of the Philosophy of Right:

To apprehend what is is the task of philosophy, because what is is reason. As for the individual, every one is a son of his time; so philosophy also is its time apprehended in thoughts. It is just as foolish to fancy that any philosophy can transcend its present world, as that an individual could leap out of his time or jump over Rhodes. If a theory transgresses its time, and builds up a world as it ought to be, it has an existence merely in the unstable element of opinion, which gives room to every wandering fancy.

How do you interpret Hegel’s thinking above? Do you agree that “every one is a son of his time”? Of that “it is just as foolish to fancy that any philosophy can transcend its present world”?

 
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